Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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Three Strikes "YOUR OUT!"

by N.drew in

1. the watchtower propagates lies.

the people of the watchtower are forgiving because "what man does not lie?

" .. 2. they lie in the name of truth.

Three Strikes "YOUR OUT!"

by N.drew in

1. the watchtower propagates lies.

the people of the watchtower are forgiving because "what man does not lie?

" .. 2. they lie in the name of truth.

THE GLADIATOR

N.drew

An interesting take on things. Perhaps we are more alike than I had realized. Her is one of my own pieces.

Truth is not a rigid set of beliefs

Once we think that we possess the truth

We close our minds to other possibilities

Swathed in absolute certainty

We lose our connection with the infinite

T Willis

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Three Strikes "YOUR OUT!"

by N.drew in

1. the watchtower propagates lies.

the people of the watchtower are forgiving because "what man does not lie?

" .. 2. they lie in the name of truth.

N.drew "Why would the Christ say ""Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him." if he was "going to make it all good one day""?

Has Christ spoken these words to you personally or did you get them second-hand from one of the Bible translations?

You see true Christians have moved beyond the things written and relegated the Bible to an uninspired collection of hearsay and rumour.

You must rely on Christ's personal revelations to you through spirit. If you want in on the living Christ you must try to keep up. Hope this helps.

RE: the above.

N.drew And your last comment there Glad is sarcasm.

Absolutely - But you haven't answered the question. Where do you personally get you Christ comments from? Sarcasm is often used to question apparently contradictory beliefs.

You are very vocal on this forum and make a huge number of unsubstantiated claims. You have the opportunity to make me look foolish by demonstrating that your reasoning is sound and dependable. It's what Christ would want!

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Three Strikes "YOUR OUT!"

by N.drew in

1. the watchtower propagates lies.

the people of the watchtower are forgiving because "what man does not lie?

" .. 2. they lie in the name of truth.

THE GLADIATOR

N.drew "When the USA was settled the early settlers had it the worst. They tread a way for them who would come after. Many people over the same route establishes the route for easier traveling."

In fairness to the original American settlers it should be mentioned that they were American indians. The white man butchered them in their thousands and claimed the land for himself.

N.drew "Why would the Christ say "" Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him." if he was "going to make it all good one day""?

Has Christ spoken these words to you personally or did you get them second-hand from one of the Bible translations?

You see true Christians have moved beyond the things written and relegated the Bible it to an uninspired collection of hearsay and rumour.

You must rely on Christ's personal revelations to you through spirit. If you want in on the living Christ you must try to keep up. Hope this helps.

102

Whitney Houston died today

by mrsjones5 in

jw
friends

THE GLADIATOR

Such a waste.

I was a big fan of Whitney Houston and thought she was brilliant in The Bodyguard with Kevin Costner.

She will be missed.

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I feel sad when someone relatively new on this board signs off because they have been offended by some posters comments

by smiddy in

jw
friends

many people who" become jw`s" through the ministry are people who are , at the time , in a vulnerable state.

{ lets face it had you been in your right mind you would never have accepted it right ?}.

many of the people who are" born in" are by that very fact vulnerable they never had a chance and were indoctrinated from an early age .. of course their going to have a lot of issues to deal with that history shows can take many years to shake off,if at all.. all i`m saying is i think we should give people a lot more space,and allow them to see the bigger picture that we can show them on this site,give them time to absorb the information thats available on this site,some of the things you learn here is a bit much to take in at first,beleive me i`ve been their .

THE GLADIATOR

Being a gladiator, I don't often quote the Bible but Proverbs & Ecclesiastes contain some good advice.

A name is better than good oil, and the day of death than the day of one’s being born. Better is it to go to the house of mourning than to go to the banquet house, because that is the end of all mankind; and the one alive should take [it] to his heart. Better is vexation than laughter, for by the crossness of the face the heart becomes better. The heart of the wise ones is in the house of mourning, but the heart of the stupid ones is in the house of rejoicing.

Better is it to hear the rebuke of someone wise than to be the man hearing the song of the stupid ones. For as the sound of thorns under the pot, so is the laughter of the stupid one; and this too is vanity. For mere oppression may make a wise one act crazy, and a gift can destroy the heart.

Better is the end afterward of a matter than its beginning. Better is one who is patient than one who is haughty in spirit. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid.

Ecclesiastes 7:1-8

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Inmates Sue over Execution Protocol

by Bangalore in

inmates sue over execution protocol.. http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2012/02/06/inmates-sue-over-execution-protocol/.

bangalore.

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THE GLADIATOR

Interesting to see these murderers are now interested in law and human rights. One of the inmates murdered and decapitated his mother.

If these murderers had thought about the rights of the people they murdered they would not now be on death row.

Their innocent victims lost all their rights and had no say in how they were executed.

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Forgiving. Surely a limit even for Christians?

by punkofnice in

ok. so i admit i'm stumped.

i left the jws and became christian and have been going through bouts of atheism, agnostisism and back.

that isn't something i want to delve into right now.. i remember seeing on the tv how a couple had their daughter murdered and they said that as christians they forgave the killer.. eh?.

THE GLADIATOR

Tammy - In the words of Jack Nicholson in ‘As Good As It Gets.’

‘You make me want to be a better man.'

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Forgiving. Surely a limit even for Christians?

by punkofnice in

ok. so i admit i'm stumped.

i left the jws and became christian and have been going through bouts of atheism, agnostisism and back.

that isn't something i want to delve into right now.. i remember seeing on the tv how a couple had their daughter murdered and they said that as christians they forgave the killer.. eh?.

THE GLADIATOR

nancy drew “why is it always okay for god to slaughter and punish ”

This is a valid point. The God of the Bible does not forgive. He did not forgive Adam & Eve but allowed all humans from then on to be born in sin, suffering old age and death. There are many accounts of the people slaughtered by God with no suggestion of them being forgiven. Then his only begotten son was required to allow himself to be tortured to death to pay God back - whatever it was God thought he was owed.

For those who look to the Bible for guidance, the future is not orange but blood red.

Fortunately I see the Bible as a far fetched novel loosely based on a few nomads’ lives - though it’s likely they were mad; a romping yarn with no relevance to the time we presently live in.

This allows me the freedom forgive or not, as I see fit. Oh, the power!

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Forgiving. Surely a limit even for Christians?

by punkofnice in

ok. so i admit i'm stumped.

i left the jws and became christian and have been going through bouts of atheism, agnostisism and back.

that isn't something i want to delve into right now.. i remember seeing on the tv how a couple had their daughter murdered and they said that as christians they forgave the killer.. eh?.

THE GLADIATOR

It could be that although Christians believe they are for giving others, they are just biding their time. They wait on their god to do the judging and punishing. This act of faith is worth extra brownie points.

Those of us that believe we are responsible for the way the world of humans is run, have a more hands on approach. ‘Wait on the Lord’ has a hollow ring to it.

I do realize that Christians will see my pragmatic approach as an indication that I am dense, earthly and lacking in spiritual qualities. This is a cross I must bear - my gods demand it.

Hail Caesar!